Problem p14142
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2005-12-11 04:40:21lummox1662
2006-05-30 10:02:12Markusgoth2122
2006-09-24 00:27:18edgy1632
2008-01-14 21:57:15CLance2000
2008-02-23 03:44:49eragon211830
2008-05-28 03:52:30tomohawk1818
2008-10-16 22:00:31jokim2000
2008-12-06 11:31:37kwanpin1752
2009-12-30 16:37:53mykingislonely1781
2012-04-17 16:02:08Garryback1679
2012-11-02 04:31:41Yaranaika2001
2013-12-12 22:22:44hustak2450
2013-12-21 07:57:40Improchess2047
2014-06-26 09:56:03Pumuckl1880

2005-10-02 06:18:45edgy1632Ne5 is just as good. Bad problem, remove it. 
2005-11-07 19:19:03edgy1632ne5 is STILL also crushing; this is a very bad problem 
2005-12-11 04:40:21lummox1662as others note, ne5 also wins 
2005-12-12 22:41:26edgy1632Once again, this prblem has been utterly broken for months. Remove. 
2006-05-30 10:02:12Markusgoth2122... but the point is, nb8 also wins. 
2006-09-24 00:27:18edgy1632No, the POINT is that Nb8 is not th eONLY winning move, so this is a BAD PROBLEM. 
2007-10-04 16:04:32rollingstone1852Very bad problem!! I completely agree!!Ne5 
2008-02-23 03:44:49eragon211830Terrible. A winning variation cannot be better than another winning variation. 
2008-05-28 03:52:30tomohawk1818Agreed with the posters above. 1.Ne5 is winning; that 1.Nb8 is a better move is not really relevant as playing moves that crafty finds +4 is going to be enough to win the vast majority of times. ;-) 
2008-09-25 19:04:26kwanpin1752i played Ne5.. and wrong??? 
2008-10-16 22:00:17jokim2000The difference between 1. Ne5 and 1. Nb8 is winning a Rook for a Knight and winning a full Rook for nothing. 
2008-10-16 22:00:31jokim2000Forgot to add the stars. Important problem! 
2008-12-06 11:31:37kwanpin1752Nb8! 
2009-12-30 16:37:53mykingislonely1781More than one solution. 
2010-08-07 09:29:03UriBlass2002easy to see that both Mb8 and Ne5 win material and in this case the solver need to calculate the better move. 
2012-04-17 16:02:08Garryback1679dual 
2017-10-11 21:38:19Bisonratte1501concerning the rules of the site its no dual. jokim is right. 

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Crafty 19.19 3GHZ 5sec

1. ... Kf8
2. Nb8
({12:+6.57} 2. Nb8 Ne8 3. Nxd7+ Rxd7 4. Rd3 Rc7 5. Qd2 e5 6. Rd8 Ke7 7. Qd1 a6 8. b3 $18)
({12:+4.08} 2. Ne5 Qd4 3. Rxc7 Qxe5 4. Rxa7 Qxe4 5. Qxe4 Nxe4 6. Rb7 Nc5 7. Rxb6 Nd3 8. Rb7 $18)